The fact that guys have to record themselves being abused/attacked by women just to be believed and not be suspected of being the abuser is fucking sad.
Ugh, when she said “call the police, I’m gonna tell them that you just assaulted me”
I’ve seen so many videos of women instigating fights with men then saying shit like that, or something along the lines of “I dare you to hit me”.
@my parents, thank you for raising me right so I didn’t turn into one of these cunts
““call the police, I’m gonna tell them that you just assaulted me””
This is when you know women absolutely know the system is biased for them, and they use that to abuse men.
Coworker of mine dated a girl once that stabbed his hand to the wall with a knife. He called the cops, but she went out with a sob story…and he got arrested instead…and while he was in jail, she robbed his house…and got away with it. Cool stuff!
This is why no Westerner needs feminism.
My mom once knifed my dad for trying to steal a cookie after she’d been starving him as punishment and she hit his wrist and blood splurted everywhere and she just sewed him up with sewing thread. And yet when he retaliates by pushing her away, that’s violence.
this is why no one needs feminism
ACTUALLY this is why we do need feminism bc the definition of feminism is gender equality, and part of the solution to this is breaking gender roles
This problem is a direct result of feminist man-hating and victimization of women. Feminists completely ignore that all the evidence we currently have shows that women are just as violent or even more violent than men and spew their anti-male bullshit to the point where it has affected the way domestic violence is handled in almost all of the US.
We need to get rid of feminism and feminist lies to fix this.
Okay, but when you bring up the Duluth Model, that applies SPECIFICALLY to when women are victims… not ALL domestic violence cases. It even says in the little screenshot that it’s a program to reduce violence against women. Don’t bring up a program that specifies violence against women when we’re not talking about that right now. I was totally on board with every comment on this post until I got to that part.
We’re talking about violence against men, and I don’t see how programs designed to help women are the cause of violence against men. The Duluth model isn’t the problem. It’s the way society conditions men to think they’re supposed to be tough, and might feel embarrassed to report abuse. It’s the way society sees women as little weaklings incapable of beating up a big, tough man.
Yes, there is a major problem with the young ones in the feminist movement over man-hating, rather than equality, and they do need to be called out, but lies about the entire feminist movement aren’t going to fix that. You don’t need to drag on someone else’s movement to support your own beliefs. This isn’t a pissing contest of who is a bigger shithead. It’s a fight for equality.
Okay, but when you bring up the Duluth Model, that applies SPECIFICALLY to when women are victims…
That’s the official Duluth Model website. It treats all abuse exclusively as M/F. Even in M>F, it doesn’t give a crap about counseling the woman, just trying to change the man. And a lot of abuse is actually mutual. They even say it’s different when women abuse, claiming it’s usually clearly in self-defense.
Though I love how your argument that “the most common batterer intervention program used in the United States” is only applied to M>F abuse. Based on precisely no evidence. Have you ever heard the expression “when all you have is a hammer”?
You know, exactly the sort of sexist assumption we’ve been complaining about.
It even says in the little screenshot that it’s a program to reduce
violence against women. Don’t bring up a program that specifies
violence against women when we’re not talking about that right now.
Feminists came up with the Duluth Model, as the screenshot clearly shows. The website claims it’s the dominant framework for addressing DV. The Violence Against Women Act, which controls federal funding for domestic violence programs, is based on the Duluth Model.
We’re talking about violence against men, and I don’t see how programs
designed to help women are the cause of violence against men. The
Duluth model isn’t the problem. It’s the way society conditions men to
think they’re supposed to be tough, and might feel embarrassed to report
abuse. It’s the way society sees women as little weaklings incapable
of beating up a big, tough man.
As far back as I can remember, I’ve seen media where women are capable of beating up men. The problem isn’t just that men don’t report, or women are seen as weak. It’s that men can’t report without being seen as the abuser. As, again, was explicitly pointed out already, including the bits you claimed you agreed with. Heck, when was the last time you saw a woman slapping a man being treated like an abuser, in media or real life?
Also, good job shifting the blame.
Yes, there is a major problem with the young ones in the feminist
movement over man-hating, rather than equality, and they do need to be
called out,
Oh, so cute. You think this is a recent problem. Many people who are sexist against men are not aware of their sexism, just like with any other prejudice. In fact, there’s a bunch of ‘em who will argue that it’s perfectly reasonable not to trust men, period, not to mention the ones who actively try to silence people who talk about men’s issues and/or criticize feminism. Including other feminists. Including breaking the law.
And, okay, let’s say it’s just “the young ones”. Why aren’t the others pushing them out, or actively disavowing them? What are they doing about the problem? Why do they mostly seem to cry NAFALT only when Those Feminists are being criticized by others? What are they doing to try and prevent sexist feminists joining the movement?
but lies about the entire feminist movement aren’t going to fix that.
And neither are half-baked rationalizations.
You don’t need to drag on someone else’s movement to support your own
beliefs. This isn’t a pissing contest of who is a bigger shithead.
It’s a fight for equality.
Which is why feminism has overwhelmingly prioritized benefiting women over all else for it’s entire existence, and has spent more time “dragging” people who talk about men’s gender issues than trying to fix them.
If you’d like to name a half-dozen major openly feminist programs to help men before women, or even admitting that women have significant privileges over men - which you can’t even quite do in this post - feel free.
